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parasitegirlWhile I research the state of bellydance here in Japan I will be posting the replies I receive from various dancers and teachers.
I'll be keeping it friends locked. I'm leaving it unlocked for 24 hours or so for those of you who read me without an LJ account, from from here on they'll be locked.
My translation style is far from perfect, the translation will go into my notes for me. I will of course be paraphrasing people for the article if need be, unless they are English speakers, at which point I'll contact them with follow-up questions for quotes.
If you're a belly dancer or curious, enjoy. If you are fluent in Japanese please tell me when I seriously cock-up a translation. I'm going for the jist so if the jist is there, leave by, but if I am making substantive mistakes (which I no doubt will) please tell me in the comments, I need to know.
And may I say, I'd forgotten that artists and dancers sometimes have a less than literal way of putting things. My first reply didn't actually use any periods or commas, just random spaces. I put them in where I saw fit.
Anze Shaw of Isis Oriental Dance School in Okinawa
http://www.ryukyujima.net/shop_info.php?ShopCode=010385&KindCode=51&AreaCode2=
Can you tell us when and how bellydancing came to Japan? Who are the best known dancers and teachers? What styles do they perform/teach?
私は日本人の先生からレッスンをうけたことがありません。カリフォルニアでモロッコの女性から彼女の踊りを学びました。
近所にアラビア系イスラエル人の家族がレバノンでのオリエンタルダンスコンテスト のビデオをかりてきて二人で遊びながらレッスンしましたですからいつ日本に来たかはわかりませんが 沖縄に来たのは私が帰国してからです
スタイルはオリエンタルクラッシック
バラディ、ハリージ、ガワズィー、レばニーズダッカ、ロマジプシー、アメリカ吐、ライバル、ベリーウッド
I have never taken a lesson from a Japanese teacher. I studied dance in California from a Morroccan woman. An Isreali family in the nearby Arab neighborhood would lend us Lebanese Oriental Dance Contest videos, we enjoyed ourselves while also learning.
I don’t know when bellydance came to Japan. I only know the time since I returned to Okinawa,
As for styles: Classic Oriental, Baladi, Haliji, Ghawzi, Lebanese daka, Roman/gypsy, American Tribal and bollywood.
Describe the scene in your area and how that compares to the scene in Japan overall.
２−３週間ウォークショップを取り講師として指導（しどう）している方もいますが、は
カリフォルニアにあるミドルイースタンダンススクールでモロワナアサーフ氏（し）よりダンスステップ ターン（ベール）ステージマナーなど基本的なことを学んだ、あとエジプトで暮らし（くらし）ました。
There are some people who teach 2-3 weeklong workshops, but as for me I learned the basics in a Middle Eastern dance school in California. From (Mr/Ms.)Morowanasa-bu I studied basics such as footwork, turns, veil, stage presence and so on. Afterwards I went to live in Egypt.
日本人の講師レベルはわかりません
I can’t comment on the level/quality of Japanese instructors (here in Japan).
Where are visitors to Japanese likely to see the dance performed or to attend classes?
沖縄ではレストランが１か所ダンスを見れます。でも踊りを見る方がまだ見方（みかた）をよくわからないといったギャップがあり レストランより舞台で踊るほうが多いです
ダンスは私の教室で習うことができます
In Okinawa one place you can see dancers is at restaurants. But there are still many people who don’t know anything about the dance/ about seeing the dance? Outside of restaurants there are many stages/locations.
It’s possible to study dance in my studio.
Where do dancer perform? What kind of venues are there? Are there places for amateur dancer as well as for pros and semi-pros?
頼まれたら踊ります。 結婚式場、 会社の余興（よきょう）、 舞台 に立つということはプロ アマ は関係ありません。
沖縄では見る人を眼が超えているわけではないので 舞台（ぶたい）に立つことでみなプロと見るのではないでしょうか？
You get asked to dance at various places, wedding ceremony halls, work events, stage performances, etc, it doesn’t really matter if you’re pro or amateur. Most viewers in Okinawa haven’t come across many belly dancers, so it stands to reason that pretty much anyone appearing on stage appears to be “pro” to them, doesn’t it?
Who is bellydancing? Are there many full-time and part-time dancers? Or are there more students and amateur dancers? What’s the average age? Are there many older or younger dancers? Are there any male dancers?
私は踊りが好きで踊りますが,踊りにプロもアマもないと思います。 踊りは踊りです。
踊り手が観てる方に何を伝えるか？プロでもうまいとは限らないし 踊りを見た方が決めることだと思います。
もう一度見てみたい踊りであれば素晴らしいことです。プロで活躍したくても沖縄にはライブミュージシャンがいません。
ですから私自身プロならＣＤではなくどんな曲でもライブで合わせることができるかたが プロだと思います。
平均年齢は３０歳女性として仕事も生活を充実している方が多いです
I dance because I love to dance. I don’t think of it in terms of pro or amateur. Dance is dance.
Doesn’t the viewer inform what a dancer is? A pro might not necessarily be a good dancer, I think it’s up to the viewer to decide. To have someone want to see you dance again, that’s a wonderful thing! I’d like to have a professional performance life style, but Okinawa doesn’t have the live bands to support such a thing. Although I have to use recorded CDs, I’m able to provide the live aspect of the dance by myself, I think that’s professional.
The average age of our belly dancer, and there are many, is 30ish. She also works and enjoys life to the fullest.
Do dancers from other countries like Egypt, US or Turkey often come to Japan? How does that work?
私は生徒さんを１０人以上連れて現地に行きます。皆さんで何百人も踊りを観賞して, ぜひこの人のテクニックを沖縄に来て指導していただきたい方を呼びます
という点では 実際あって人間的な部分や指導テクニックを自分で受けてから 自分（で開催します
As for me I take groups of about 10 students to communities where they can enjoy hundreds of dancers. Of course we bring the techniques of those people back to Okinawa where we can teach others. What parts and techniques they bring back with them and present of course varies depending on the individual.
I gather that Tribal has taken off in Japan. How big is it? Is it ATS or Fusion? Is a distinctive Japanese fusion style emerging?
私はオレゴンのとらいばるクエストに参加しました
エジプトでもテキサスよりアーバンジプシーからテクニックを学びました.
今では沖縄らしくできればと研究しながら指導しています
I’ve participated in something called “Oregon tribal quest”. Although it took place in Egyp,t I was taught Urban Gypsy techniques by an American from Texas. I’m personally working on a Okanawan-ish style while I am teaching..
Do you think that there is anything about Japanese culture that makes the Japanese dancers different in style?
ヨーロッパやアメリカ、エジプトのベリーダンサー違いがあります
もちろん生徒のレベルや指導者の指導力にも関係あると考えますが
でも極めて）行けば 行き着くスタイルは似てくると思います。
日本ベリーダンサーもカイロでライブミュージシャンをもち頑張っている方はいます
There are differences between Japan and American, Egyptian, and European dancers. Of course I have to consider how that relates to my students’ levels and my own teaching style. But, I think that when a dancer reaches the highest levels of achievement for whatever style they pursue, the similarities emerge. There are also Japanese dancers who are trying their best and working with live music in Cairo.
アメリカ人のレイライギリスのジャスミーナブラジルからソラヤ
エジプト人は見る側もどこの国だからいいとかでなく彼女たちの踊りを認めています？Take Leila from America, Yasmine from England, or Sora from Brazil, when Egyptians watch these sorts of dancer perform they appreciate them. It doesn’t matter what countries they came from.
日本人だから韓国人だからではなくその方の気持ちが踊りに情熱として表現できることでベリーダンサーとしてその方個人のスタイルとして認め（みとめ）られると考え（かんがえ）ます
I’m Japanese, therefore I’m not Korean. But when I see a Korean dancer who fully and passionately expresses herself through belly dance, I can experience and contemplate that dancer’s personal style and emotions.
What kind of music is popular with dancers? Classic, pop, folkloric, etc?
クラッシックが個人的に好きです
バラディーも踊りやすいです
ポップは創作しやすいです レッスン指導しやすいのはカウントがしやすい曲です
Personally, I love classical (Egyptian). I also find baladi easy to dance to. Pop music is simply constructed which makes it easy to teach with, the beat is easy to count.
Do many dancers travel abroad to study?
私のレベルになると海外に行き. その方の指導の仕方を学ぶ.
その方の指導の仕方を学ぶ
現地のトップダンサーの動きを肌で感じることで指導の際臨場感が違うと思います
私が行くことで 現地になかなか行けない皆さんに生の情報や
最新のドレスコスチュームが伝わります
As for me, when I reached a certain level I went abroad to study and work.
I think it’s a different experience to learn first hand from the top dancer in the area.
For me, going there mean going to communities that not everyone can go to and getting things like raw information and the latest costumes.
Can a dancer make a full-time living there?
ダンス ダンサーとして沖縄で難しいです
中にはＣＤのコピーや自作のＤＶＤを販売しながら生計のたしにしている方もいるでしょう？
でも本当に自分の踊りにプライドを持っていれば
ダンサーはダンサーとしてがんばるほうが踊りも純粋さがにじむと思います.
To make a living only as a dancer dancing in Okinawa is very difficult.
You’re also including things like copying cds or selling DVD’s that you’ve made as a factor of making your livelihood as a dancer, aren’t you?
I think you’d have to work extremely hard to survive purely as a dancer.
How about the Goth scene? Is it there and does it have a bellydance side to it?
ゴシックやトライバルに天真爛漫\の笑顔が合いません.
でもオリエンタルにはダンスに五感や感情感性で表現できる醍醐味があります。
I don’t really associate Gothic or Tribal with the unadulterated bliss of bellydance.
However, the wonder of oriental style is that all five senses and a range of sensitive emotions can be expressed and enjoyed within it.
好みによりゴシックが好きな方もいると思います。 でも７０歳になったその時の
女性の持つ熟成された踊りはオリエンタルダンサーであれば表現（ひょうげん）しやすいかと考えます
I think there are those who come to the dance from a goth background. But I wonder, when those dancers turn 70 will they find that the more mature emotions they then possess might be more easily expressed through (classic?) oriental dance.
Are there musicians, table players, ect in Japan?
沖縄にはプロはいません。私がたまに叩きます。エジプトにいるＫＨＡＭＩＳ ＨＥＮＫＥＳＨレベルにはまず無理です
I occasionally drum. There aren’t any pros in Okinawa, nothing on the level of Egypt’s Khamis Henkeshi around here.
How do you see the scene developing in your area? Is it increasing in popularity?
とても人気がありますが
生徒が減少しているエリアもあります
ベリーの人気が高まるほどダンスレベルに厚みがない場合飽きられるのも事実です
It’s amazingly popular here, but there are areas in which the number of students is decreasing. In contrast to the popularity of the dance the level of dancers here is frankly somewhat disappointing.
Why do you think Japanese women (and men?) are taking up bellydancing?
日本の女性だけでなく 世界中で引かれています
ヨーロッパ アメリカ を筆頭に南米、 メキシコ、中国、台湾。
今まで使わない筋肉の動きや立体的な動きは
アナログなダンスから デジタル（３Ｄ）立体的横縦前後左右すべての
方向に 体全身指先手首足首細かな動きまで使うべりーダンスは日本女性（のみでな世界中の女性虜にして当然ではないでしょうか
It’s not just women here in Japan, it’s a worldwide movement. Europe and America are first and foremost, but after them come South America, Mexico, Korea, Tawaii and more!
Doesn’t it just seem natural that belly dance, a dance form that so fully utilizes the whole body, that takes hitherto unused muscles and works them in all directions (from head to toe, left to right, neck to ankle, every last inch of one’s personage )AND is an aerobic dance would captivate women here in Japan and women worldwide?
I'll be keeping it friends locked. I'm leaving it unlocked for 24 hours or so for those of you who read me without an LJ account, from from here on they'll be locked.
My translation style is far from perfect, the translation will go into my notes for me. I will of course be paraphrasing people for the article if need be, unless they are English speakers, at which point I'll contact them with follow-up questions for quotes.
If you're a belly dancer or curious, enjoy. If you are fluent in Japanese please tell me when I seriously cock-up a translation. I'm going for the jist so if the jist is there, leave by, but if I am making substantive mistakes (which I no doubt will) please tell me in the comments, I need to know.
And may I say, I'd forgotten that artists and dancers sometimes have a less than literal way of putting things. My first reply didn't actually use any periods or commas, just random spaces. I put them in where I saw fit.
Anze Shaw of Isis Oriental Dance School in Okinawa
http://www.ryukyujima.net/shop_info.php?ShopCode=010385&KindCode=51&AreaCode2=
Can you tell us when and how bellydancing came to Japan? Who are the best known dancers and teachers? What styles do they perform/teach?
私は日本人の先生からレッスンをうけたことがありません。カリフォルニアでモロッコの女性から彼女の踊りを学びました。
近所にアラビア系イスラエル人の家族がレバノンでのオリエンタルダンスコンテスト のビデオをかりてきて二人で遊びながらレッスンしましたですからいつ日本に来たかはわかりませんが 沖縄に来たのは私が帰国してからです
スタイルはオリエンタルクラッシック
バラディ、ハリージ、ガワズィー、レばニーズダッカ、ロマジプシー、アメリカ吐、ライバル、ベリーウッド
I have never taken a lesson from a Japanese teacher. I studied dance in California from a Morroccan woman. An Isreali family in the nearby Arab neighborhood would lend us Lebanese Oriental Dance Contest videos, we enjoyed ourselves while also learning.
I don’t know when bellydance came to Japan. I only know the time since I returned to Okinawa,
As for styles: Classic Oriental, Baladi, Haliji, Ghawzi, Lebanese daka, Roman/gypsy, American Tribal and bollywood.
Describe the scene in your area and how that compares to the scene in Japan overall.
２−３週間ウォークショップを取り講師として指導（しどう）している方もいますが、は
カリフォルニアにあるミドルイースタンダンススクールでモロワナアサーフ氏（し）よりダンスステップ ターン（ベール）ステージマナーなど基本的なことを学んだ、あとエジプトで暮らし（くらし）ました。
There are some people who teach 2-3 weeklong workshops, but as for me I learned the basics in a Middle Eastern dance school in California. From (Mr/Ms.)Morowanasa-bu I studied basics such as footwork, turns, veil, stage presence and so on. Afterwards I went to live in Egypt.
日本人の講師レベルはわかりません
I can’t comment on the level/quality of Japanese instructors (here in Japan).
Where are visitors to Japanese likely to see the dance performed or to attend classes?
沖縄ではレストランが１か所ダンスを見れます。でも踊りを見る方がまだ見方（みかた）をよくわからないといったギャップがあり レストランより舞台で踊るほうが多いです
ダンスは私の教室で習うことができます
In Okinawa one place you can see dancers is at restaurants. But there are still many people who don’t know anything about the dance/ about seeing the dance? Outside of restaurants there are many stages/locations.
It’s possible to study dance in my studio.
Where do dancer perform? What kind of venues are there? Are there places for amateur dancer as well as for pros and semi-pros?
頼まれたら踊ります。 結婚式場、 会社の余興（よきょう）、 舞台 に立つということはプロ アマ は関係ありません。
沖縄では見る人を眼が超えているわけではないので 舞台（ぶたい）に立つことでみなプロと見るのではないでしょうか？
You get asked to dance at various places, wedding ceremony halls, work events, stage performances, etc, it doesn’t really matter if you’re pro or amateur. Most viewers in Okinawa haven’t come across many belly dancers, so it stands to reason that pretty much anyone appearing on stage appears to be “pro” to them, doesn’t it?
Who is bellydancing? Are there many full-time and part-time dancers? Or are there more students and amateur dancers? What’s the average age? Are there many older or younger dancers? Are there any male dancers?
私は踊りが好きで踊りますが,踊りにプロもアマもないと思います。 踊りは踊りです。
踊り手が観てる方に何を伝えるか？プロでもうまいとは限らないし 踊りを見た方が決めることだと思います。
もう一度見てみたい踊りであれば素晴らしいことです。プロで活躍したくても沖縄にはライブミュージシャンがいません。
ですから私自身プロならＣＤではなくどんな曲でもライブで合わせることができるかたが プロだと思います。
平均年齢は３０歳女性として仕事も生活を充実している方が多いです
I dance because I love to dance. I don’t think of it in terms of pro or amateur. Dance is dance.
Doesn’t the viewer inform what a dancer is? A pro might not necessarily be a good dancer, I think it’s up to the viewer to decide. To have someone want to see you dance again, that’s a wonderful thing! I’d like to have a professional performance life style, but Okinawa doesn’t have the live bands to support such a thing. Although I have to use recorded CDs, I’m able to provide the live aspect of the dance by myself, I think that’s professional.
The average age of our belly dancer, and there are many, is 30ish. She also works and enjoys life to the fullest.
Do dancers from other countries like Egypt, US or Turkey often come to Japan? How does that work?
私は生徒さんを１０人以上連れて現地に行きます。皆さんで何百人も踊りを観賞して, ぜひこの人のテクニックを沖縄に来て指導していただきたい方を呼びます
という点では 実際あって人間的な部分や指導テクニックを自分で受けてから 自分（で開催します
As for me I take groups of about 10 students to communities where they can enjoy hundreds of dancers. Of course we bring the techniques of those people back to Okinawa where we can teach others. What parts and techniques they bring back with them and present of course varies depending on the individual.
I gather that Tribal has taken off in Japan. How big is it? Is it ATS or Fusion? Is a distinctive Japanese fusion style emerging?
私はオレゴンのとらいばるクエストに参加しました
エジプトでもテキサスよりアーバンジプシーからテクニックを学びました.
今では沖縄らしくできればと研究しながら指導しています
I’ve participated in something called “Oregon tribal quest”. Although it took place in Egyp,t I was taught Urban Gypsy techniques by an American from Texas. I’m personally working on a Okanawan-ish style while I am teaching..
Do you think that there is anything about Japanese culture that makes the Japanese dancers different in style?
ヨーロッパやアメリカ、エジプトのベリーダンサー違いがあります
もちろん生徒のレベルや指導者の指導力にも関係あると考えますが
でも極めて）行けば 行き着くスタイルは似てくると思います。
日本ベリーダンサーもカイロでライブミュージシャンをもち頑張っている方はいます
There are differences between Japan and American, Egyptian, and European dancers. Of course I have to consider how that relates to my students’ levels and my own teaching style. But, I think that when a dancer reaches the highest levels of achievement for whatever style they pursue, the similarities emerge. There are also Japanese dancers who are trying their best and working with live music in Cairo.
アメリカ人のレイライギリスのジャスミーナブラジルからソラヤ
エジプト人は見る側もどこの国だからいいとかでなく彼女たちの踊りを認めています？Take Leila from America, Yasmine from England, or Sora from Brazil, when Egyptians watch these sorts of dancer perform they appreciate them. It doesn’t matter what countries they came from.
日本人だから韓国人だからではなくその方の気持ちが踊りに情熱として表現できることでベリーダンサーとしてその方個人のスタイルとして認め（みとめ）られると考え（かんがえ）ます
I’m Japanese, therefore I’m not Korean. But when I see a Korean dancer who fully and passionately expresses herself through belly dance, I can experience and contemplate that dancer’s personal style and emotions.
What kind of music is popular with dancers? Classic, pop, folkloric, etc?
クラッシックが個人的に好きです
バラディーも踊りやすいです
ポップは創作しやすいです レッスン指導しやすいのはカウントがしやすい曲です
Personally, I love classical (Egyptian). I also find baladi easy to dance to. Pop music is simply constructed which makes it easy to teach with, the beat is easy to count.
Do many dancers travel abroad to study?
私のレベルになると海外に行き. その方の指導の仕方を学ぶ.
その方の指導の仕方を学ぶ
現地のトップダンサーの動きを肌で感じることで指導の際臨場感が違うと思います
私が行くことで 現地になかなか行けない皆さんに生の情報や
最新のドレスコスチュームが伝わります
As for me, when I reached a certain level I went abroad to study and work.
I think it’s a different experience to learn first hand from the top dancer in the area.
For me, going there mean going to communities that not everyone can go to and getting things like raw information and the latest costumes.
Can a dancer make a full-time living there?
ダンス ダンサーとして沖縄で難しいです
中にはＣＤのコピーや自作のＤＶＤを販売しながら生計のたしにしている方もいるでしょう？
でも本当に自分の踊りにプライドを持っていれば
ダンサーはダンサーとしてがんばるほうが踊りも純粋さがにじむと思います.
To make a living only as a dancer dancing in Okinawa is very difficult.
You’re also including things like copying cds or selling DVD’s that you’ve made as a factor of making your livelihood as a dancer, aren’t you?
I think you’d have to work extremely hard to survive purely as a dancer.
How about the Goth scene? Is it there and does it have a bellydance side to it?
ゴシックやトライバルに天真爛漫\の笑顔が合いません.
でもオリエンタルにはダンスに五感や感情感性で表現できる醍醐味があります。
I don’t really associate Gothic or Tribal with the unadulterated bliss of bellydance.
However, the wonder of oriental style is that all five senses and a range of sensitive emotions can be expressed and enjoyed within it.
好みによりゴシックが好きな方もいると思います。 でも７０歳になったその時の
女性の持つ熟成された踊りはオリエンタルダンサーであれば表現（ひょうげん）しやすいかと考えます
I think there are those who come to the dance from a goth background. But I wonder, when those dancers turn 70 will they find that the more mature emotions they then possess might be more easily expressed through (classic?) oriental dance.
Are there musicians, table players, ect in Japan?
沖縄にはプロはいません。私がたまに叩きます。エジプトにいるＫＨＡＭＩＳ ＨＥＮＫＥＳＨレベルにはまず無理です
I occasionally drum. There aren’t any pros in Okinawa, nothing on the level of Egypt’s Khamis Henkeshi around here.
How do you see the scene developing in your area? Is it increasing in popularity?
とても人気がありますが
生徒が減少しているエリアもあります
ベリーの人気が高まるほどダンスレベルに厚みがない場合飽きられるのも事実です
It’s amazingly popular here, but there are areas in which the number of students is decreasing. In contrast to the popularity of the dance the level of dancers here is frankly somewhat disappointing.
Why do you think Japanese women (and men?) are taking up bellydancing?
日本の女性だけでなく 世界中で引かれています
ヨーロッパ アメリカ を筆頭に南米、 メキシコ、中国、台湾。
今まで使わない筋肉の動きや立体的な動きは
アナログなダンスから デジタル（３Ｄ）立体的横縦前後左右すべての
方向に 体全身指先手首足首細かな動きまで使うべりーダンスは日本女性（のみでな世界中の女性虜にして当然ではないでしょうか
It’s not just women here in Japan, it’s a worldwide movement. Europe and America are first and foremost, but after them come South America, Mexico, Korea, Tawaii and more!
Doesn’t it just seem natural that belly dance, a dance form that so fully utilizes the whole body, that takes hitherto unused muscles and works them in all directions (from head to toe, left to right, neck to ankle, every last inch of one’s personage )AND is an aerobic dance would captivate women here in Japan and women worldwide?
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Date: 2007-11-16 12:37 pm (UTC)